Curse

slaponte · Dec 05, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

By the time they drop it low enough to kill my profit to the point of worthless effort(which is all dependent on how big my group of botters is, and how many computers I have), they'll have already done too much damage to the game to turn back.

I don't understand this supposed damage you allude to. I will assume the following are examples of the damage.

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

Everyone has complete access to cheap gold with no effort. Now the only players you will have left are those that don't care about the money and those that buy it. Everyone that played the economy for fun has already left for something better.

There are players who play the economy for fun? Like, how? Bankers? Or you mean like item traders? Well, now there ar emore buyers for special weapons. Since how much gold there is has NO EFFECT on how often lets say a green drops, they are still rare. And there are now more buyers. So any seller would still have plenty of fun, no?

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

All the lower money players will be okay as long as they stick to merchants and weaponsmiths. All the players that bought money will fail to have a concept of the worth of that money, which is why people are saying the whole "500k for x item" thing.

Wow, I disagree. I would find 500g I paid $20 to get MUCH more valuable than 500g I got with hours of grind and trading and farming. $20 are real, and I don't spend real money on just anything. I had to real life work for those $20. The gold in the game is 'free". So the gold purchased is MUCH more valuable to me.

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

It'll be like giving a kid a new game and then showing him how to unlock God-mode. If you can just buy money to get some perfect weapon, rather than expending the effort to get a perfect green yourself or to simply play until you find one, than it takes the challenge from a large portion of the game. And even those who aren't into playing the economy or whatnot will probably be put off by the fact that because they aren't willing to spend RL cash, they can't get perfect weapons as easily.

Again, not sure I agree.

- My kids used to play Sega and Nintendo and found cheat codes and god codes and still payed a lot, sometimes with the code, sometimes not. Is you choice. I know cheat codes to many of my games and yet I choose to or not to use them.

- I don't find there is a direct connection between effort and finding a green. It is more an act of pure luck. If by effort you mean farming (repeating a zone over and over) or "grinding", I don't feel proud to say I grind an area for 1000 times and I got a green. Thats silly. To me is more like a lottery. I play the game, and if a green ever drops, I feel mighty lucky, and thats about it.

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

As a new player, how would it make you feel to put effort into something when everyone around you is simply tossing money at the problems, and so have max armour and weapons(or PLing) at extremely early stages of the game(thereby making certain learning curves easier)?

That happens today! Trust me, people are selling and buying gold. Just underground. Even a simple google search shows items for sale for real $$$. It doesn't bother me. Some want to pay and get the green stuff? Be my guest. I don't. And when I do find one I am a very happy camper.

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Originally Posted by Sli Ander

I much prefer the approach Anet has been using simply because by the drop in item prices, it has proved to be rather effective.

But that's just my two cents

The prices maybe dropped (not sure, I still can;t afford a mini for 100Kg, but ok). Ectos are out of Joe Player reach. 250 cores? How much is that going to cost you? The current status is this : if you follow the law (no real money involved), then you better be ready to grind and farm till your fingers drop off. So that means if you have no much life and have the next 300 hours to spend, you can get those 250 cores. I have been collecting cores since I started GWEN, since it came out. I just finished for the first time all the way through (I have a job, and family, etc). I have... 15 cores. And no way to get the money to buy the other 235... Would I buy the cores with RL money? No. I don't want them that bad. But thats just me. I am game-poor and I really don't care that I am.

freaky naughty · Dec 05, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

I wonder how badly this would piss of the uber rich like malice black and scooby. If it was made legal to buy gold from Anet then inflation would kill prices so no.